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I really want to play Thopter/Sword and have it not suck, that would pretty much be the tits...
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« Reply #61 on: August 27, 2011, 07:21:43 am » |
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I'll add the totally unbroken PREDICT!
I mean, instant draw 2 and mess with the topdeck?
Synergy with: sensei's top + Counterbalance, brainstorm, ponder, preordain (all scry cards), opposing topdeck tutors and noxious revival,, Jace,
ANCESTRAL VISIONS, MEMORY LAPSE
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and more crap like:
sage of epityr, submerge, lim-duls vault, Lodestone Bauble, Explorer's Scope, Lantern of insight, portent, QUEST FOR ULA'S TEMPLE (sry), spy network, coral fighters, psychich surgery, sylvan library.
It is hard to believe the card is unbreakable. It never worked.
P.S.: It also forms the perfect Win-more Combo with future sight!
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I will be playing four of these. I'll worry about the deck later.
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« Reply #62 on: August 27, 2011, 10:14:04 am » |
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I'll have to disagree with Peter's "crap" list. Portent is a highly underused card. In storm, ponder was better, but in a deck that didn't need to chain spells, portent was awesome. The bonus comes in being able to know and mess with the opponent next THREE draws. Also, because you don't draw as part of the resolution, you could hit your own three, shuffle if you didn't like what you saw, then use sensei top to stack your new 3 and draw at the beginning of your opponent's upkeep (a counterspell for example). Often, in my tyrant oath deck with 2 sensei tops (before jace), I would run 4 portent and 1 ponder. Many times I could screw my opponents draws while setting up my win and know that they would never draw an answer. The deck also ran thoughtseize to 1) bounce a problem and immediately rip it (like tangle wire/bridge/etc) and 2) clear their hand of tutors so my meddling with their draws really hosed them for 3 draws. It was great to put crap on top, a fetch next, and a bomb third and then watch as on their eot after dropping the fetch, they instinctively crack it, assuming there's no way you would have left that yawg will as the third card and not shuffled it away! Portent was OFTEN a double time walk when I was ahead, knowing they had no way out coming. Ponder couldn't do any of that, and it is restricted! (because of storm obviously)
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« Reply #63 on: August 27, 2011, 01:24:53 pm » |
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Plow Under, Stunted Growth, Fallow Earth. With artifact accell, and Elvish Spirit Guide and Noble Hierarch, aren't these all possible???
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« Reply #64 on: August 29, 2011, 12:06:10 pm » |
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Plow Under, Stunted Growth, Fallow Earth. With artifact accell, and Elvish Spirit Guide and Noble Hierarch, aren't these all possible???
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I suppose it's mostly the thought that this format is just one big Mistake; and not even a very sophisticated one at that.
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« Reply #65 on: August 29, 2011, 06:56:17 pm » |
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Praetor's grasp
Tortured existence(combo!)
Ication javileneers...man I miss pinging welders, gorilla shaman, and lackeys
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« Reply #66 on: August 30, 2011, 10:54:48 am » |
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Tortured Existence seems like it should REALLY see play somewhere...
Realms Uncharted
Survival of the Fittest
Sylvan Library
Sword of Fire and Ice
Gaea's Cradle
Possessed Portal
Dream Halls
Culling Scales (more of a dissapointment, its a 3cc Smokestack cocktease)
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« Reply #67 on: August 30, 2011, 11:14:26 am » |
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Tortured Existence seems like it should REALLY see play somewhere...
Realms Uncharted
Survival of the Fittest
Sylvan Library
Sword of Fire and Ice
Gaea's Cradle
Possessed Portal
Dream Halls
Culling Scales (more of a dissapointment, its a 3cc Smokestack cocktease)
Tortured existence really needs a creature to be printed like this: B1 1/1 Madness: 0 If you played "" for madness cost target opponent loses 1 life and add B to mana pool. I want to play it in edh so bad... Possessed portal and culling scales are things i have always owned in hopes of eventually being good...but this never materialized. So sad. Culling scales should have been an unrampable smokestack that comes into play with a single soot on it. |
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« Reply #68 on: August 30, 2011, 06:14:24 pm » |
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TorturedExistence/Deathgreeter/CarnivalOfSouls/BaskingRootwalla/BitterOrdeal.dec
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« Reply #69 on: September 04, 2011, 08:17:21 pm » |
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Lim-Dul's Vault. I've been wanting this card to be good for a loooong time.   isn't as awkward as it used to be with strong black support for Confidant everywhere and the decline of Mana Drain; on the other hand the closer Vintage moves towards a highlander format the weaker the card gets, obviously... I don't understand why you say this. It's still always at least a Vampiric Tutor than can, for example, set up 3 lands on top against Stax... |
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« Reply #70 on: September 06, 2011, 02:58:24 am » |
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Personally, I'd like to be the man that breaks Pygmy Hippo.
Can see it in something fishy along with Chalice of the Void, ESG, maybe the slightly anti-synergistic Root Maze to make sure you can swing past eff-ing Golems. Although the humble, hungry hippo doesn't himself do damage, maybe he's the blighter to power Natural Order in Vintage. Or heck, if you're feeling super janky, Pattern of Rebirth...
(It's possible I've been playing too much EDH though...)
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« Reply #72 on: September 07, 2011, 09:38:10 pm » |
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Lim-Dul's Vault. I've been wanting this card to be good for a loooong time. isn't as awkward as it used to be with strong black support for Confidant everywhere and the decline of Mana Drain; on the other hand the closer Vintage moves towards a highlander format the weaker the card gets, obviously... I don't understand why you say this. It's still always at least a Vampiric Tutor than can, for example, set up 3 lands on top against Stax... It's only at least a Vampiric Tutor when you don't mind losing up to ~9 life. To find a restricted card you'll be paying a little over 4 life on average. Is some control over your other next 4 cards worth the 2 life and 1 blue mana difference? The Vault works much better when you're looking for a 4-of, of course, and that's where it really shines. |
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« Reply #73 on: September 07, 2011, 09:41:36 pm » |
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Personally, I'd like to be the man that breaks Pygmy Hippo.
Can see it in something fishy along with Chalice of the Void, ESG, maybe the slightly anti-synergistic Root Maze to make sure you can swing past eff-ing Golems. Although the humble, hungry hippo doesn't himself do damage, maybe he's the blighter to power Natural Order in Vintage. Or heck, if you're feeling super janky, Pattern of Rebirth...
(It's possible I've been playing too much EDH though...)
Can't your opponent just tap out during your first main phase if you have an active hippo? EDIT: Forgot that mana pools empty every step now... so your opponent can even wait until your declare attackers step to tap out. |
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« Reply #74 on: September 08, 2011, 06:23:56 am » |
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Personally, I'd like to be the man that breaks Pygmy Hippo.
Can see it in something fishy along with Chalice of the Void, ESG, maybe the slightly anti-synergistic Root Maze to make sure you can swing past eff-ing Golems. Although the humble, hungry hippo doesn't himself do damage, maybe he's the blighter to power Natural Order in Vintage. Or heck, if you're feeling super janky, Pattern of Rebirth...
(It's possible I've been playing too much EDH though...)
Can't your opponent just tap out during your first main phase if you have an active hippo? EDIT: Forgot that mana pools empty every step now... so your opponent can even wait until your declare attackers step to tap out. Bugger. And they don't even mana burn any more. Vaguely playable with Winter Orb? Probably not. Kind of wish I hadn't got over excited about the little blighter and just ordered a playset.... |
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« Reply #75 on: September 08, 2011, 10:47:45 am » |
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Pygmy Hippo - For when four Xantid Swarms just arn't enough.
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« Reply #76 on: September 12, 2011, 09:49:08 am » |
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Bant Charm
Null Profusion
Nether Void
Ill-Gotten Gains
Sen Triplets
Infernal Contract
Shadow of Doubt
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« Reply #77 on: September 12, 2011, 01:19:43 pm » |
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Intuition seems like it should see more play than it does.
Cards like Recurring Nightmare, Survival of the Fittest, and Squee. Semi-effective, but mostly fun cards that get an E for effort.
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« Reply #78 on: September 12, 2011, 04:30:09 pm » |
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Lim-Dul's Vault
Diabolic Vision
Meditate
Infernal Contract
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« Reply #79 on: September 13, 2011, 04:44:20 pm » |
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Etherium Sculptor
I've on and off tried to build infinite combos off this guy. Nothing good enough for vintage, though.
Still, I dream of plays like: E. Sculptor, Sensei's top x 2 achieves infi-storm, brain freeze.
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