Official TMD "Players to avoid on MWS" list

[honestabe]

I was playing against someone a couple weeks ago who insisted that I click "Ok?" after I did anything using the stack, and was really obnoxious about it.  I would play a spell and wait for him to respond, he would write "waiting...10 9 8 7 6" etc., "holy crap 6 seconds!" if I didn't ask "Ok?" quickly enough.  He also called me a cheater on many occasions.  Is it likely that this was Sift?

It could have been, but i doubt he'd of given you that much time.  He's usually quick to "ban" someone

[urweak]

JudasKilled's life total is now 2 (-2)
Urweak puts Magus of the Moon to Graveyard from Play
Urweak taps Taiga
Urweak plays Lightning Bolt from Hand
<Urweak> gg
<JudasKilled> reason i hate playing against this deck is it cant win against 90% of vintage
<JudasKilled> but mine can
<Urweak> dont be so smug
<Urweak> enjoy the game for what it is
<JudasKilled> its not smugnes
<JudasKilled> just truth
<JudasKilled> thats why my message said Tier pklz
<System> Player Lost

[OwenTheEnchanter]

haha!

[LotusHead]

On a plus side, Vintage-Type 1 has been an excellet opponent.

[Smmenen]

<New Game: waiting for opponent>
Sleetshot shuffles library
<Sleetshot> I am ready.
Sleetshot draws 0 cards
M.Solymossy shuffles library
M.Solymossy draws 0 cards
<-------- New Game Started -------->
Sleetshot's Security Code: C2A2608F [???]
M.Solymossy's Security Code: 1D619CC4 [???]
It is now turn 1 (Sleetshot)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
<M.Solymossy> cheers
Sleetshot rolled a 10, using a 20 sided die
M.Solymossy rolled a 15, using a 20 sided die
M.Solymossy shuffles library
<Sleetshot> yo
<M.Solymossy> ill play
M.Solymossy shuffles library
M.Solymossy draws 7 cards
Sleetshot shuffles library
Sleetshot shuffles library
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot draws a card
M.Solymossy shuffles library
M.Solymossy takes a mulligan
<M.Solymossy> keep
<Sleetshot> kp
M.Solymossy plays Mox Sapphire from Hand
M.Solymossy plays Swamp from Hand
M.Solymossy plays Demonic Tutor from Hand
M.Solymossy taps Mox Sapphire
M.Solymossy taps Swamp
<Sleetshot> ok
<M.Solymossy> Ok?
M.Solymossy is looking its Library...
M.Solymossy puts card to Hand from Library
M.Solymossy shuffles library
M.Solymossy stops looking its Library...
M.Solymossy puts Demonic Tutor to Graveyard from Play
<M.Solymossy> End my turn
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot plays Mox Ruby from Hand
Sleetshot taps Mox Ruby
Sleetshot plays Goblin Welder from Hand
<Sleetshot> Ok?
<M.Solymossy> Ok
Sleetshot plays Mox Pearl from Hand
Sleetshot plays Mox Sapphire from Hand
Sleetshot plays Mishra's Workshop from Hand
Sleetshot taps Mishra's Workshop
Sleetshot taps Mox Pearl
Sleetshot plays Smokestack from Hand
<M.Solymossy> Ok
<Sleetshot> End my turn
It is now turn 2 (M.Solymossy)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
M.Solymossy untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
M.Solymossy draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
M.Solymossy plays Polluted Delta from Hand
M.Solymossy taps Mox Sapphire
M.Solymossy plays Sensei's Divining Top from Hand
<M.Solymossy> End my turn
Sleetshot untaps his/her permanents
Smokestack now has 1 (+1) counters.
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot plays City of Brass from Hand
Sleetshot taps Mox Pearl
Sleetshot untaps Mox Pearl
Sleetshot taps Mox Ruby
Sleetshot taps City of Brass
Sleetshot plays Demonic Tutor from Hand
Sleetshot's life total is now 19 (-1)
<M.Solymossy> Thinking
<M.Solymossy> Ok
Sleetshot is looking its Library...
Sleetshot puts card to Hand from Library
Sleetshot shuffles library
Sleetshot stops looking its Library...
Sleetshot taps Mox Pearl
Sleetshot puts Demonic Tutor to Graveyard from Play
Sleetshot plays Sol Ring from Hand
<Sleetshot> Ok?
<M.Solymossy> Ok
Sleetshot taps Mishra's Workshop
Sleetshot plays Trinisphere from Hand
<Sleetshot> Ok?
<M.Solymossy> Thinking
<M.Solymossy> MUST be nice
<M.Solymossy> okay
<Sleetshot> must be nice to DT?
<Sleetshot> yeah, dt is a nice card
<Sleetshot> End my turn
<M.Solymossy> done?
<Sleetshot> End my turn
M.Solymossy taps Swamp
M.Solymossy is looking top 3 cards of its Library...
M.Solymossy rearranges cards in M.Solymossy's Library
M.Solymossy rearranges cards in M.Solymossy's Library
M.Solymossy rearranges cards in M.Solymossy's Library
M.Solymossy rearranges cards in M.Solymossy's Library
M.Solymossy rearranges cards in M.Solymossy's Library
M.Solymossy rearranges cards in M.Solymossy's Library
M.Solymossy stops looking its Library...
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
M.Solymossy untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
M.Solymossy puts Sensei's Divining Top to Graveyard from Play
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
M.Solymossy draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
M.Solymossy plays Bloodstained Mire from Hand
<M.Solymossy> End my turn
Sleetshot untaps his/her permanents
Sleetshot puts Mox Ruby to Graveyard from Play
<Sleetshot> Thinking
Smokestack now has 2 (+1) counters.
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot taps Mishra's Workshop
Sleetshot plays Tangle Wire from Hand
<M.Solymossy> Ok
Tangle Wire now has 4 (+4) counters.
<Sleetshot> End my turn
M.Solymossy taps Polluted Delta
M.Solymossy puts Polluted Delta to Graveyard from Play
M.Solymossy's life total is now 19 (-1)
M.Solymossy is looking its Library...
M.Solymossy puts Swamp into play from Library
M.Solymossy shuffles library
M.Solymossy stops looking its Library...
M.Solymossy taps Mox Sapphire
M.Solymossy taps Swamp
M.Solymossy taps Swamp
M.Solymossy plays Hurkyl's Recall from Hand
<M.Solymossy> on eot, obv.
<Sleetshot> Thinking
<Sleetshot> must be nice
<M.Solymossy> is
Sleetshot puts Smokestack to Hand from Play
Sleetshot puts Trinisphere to Hand from Play
Sleetshot puts Tangle Wire to Hand from Play
Sleetshot puts Mox Pearl to Hand from Play
Sleetshot puts Mox Sapphire to Hand from Play
M.Solymossy puts Hurkyl's Recall to Graveyard from Play
Sleetshot puts Sol Ring to Hand from Play
<M.Solymossy> it gets better
M.Solymossy taps Bloodstained Mire
M.Solymossy puts Bloodstained Mire to Graveyard from Play
M.Solymossy's life total is now 18 (-1)
M.Solymossy is looking its Library...
M.Solymossy puts Underground Sea into play from Library
M.Solymossy shuffles library
M.Solymossy stops looking its Library...
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
M.Solymossy untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
M.Solymossy draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
M.Solymossy taps Mox Sapphire
M.Solymossy plays Repeal from Hand
<M.Solymossy> Ok?
<Sleetshot> Ok
M.Solymossy draws a card
M.Solymossy puts Mox Sapphire to Hand from Play
M.Solymossy puts Repeal to Graveyard from Play
M.Solymossy plays Mox Sapphire from Hand
M.Solymossy taps Swamp
M.Solymossy taps Swamp
M.Solymossy taps Mox Sapphire
M.Solymossy plays Timetwister from Hand
<Sleetshot> Ok
M.Solymossy puts a card on top of Library from Hand
M.Solymossy puts a card on top of Library from Hand
Sleetshot puts a card on top of Library from Hand
Sleetshot puts a card on top of Library from Hand
Sleetshot puts a card on top of Library from Hand
Sleetshot puts a card on top of Library from Hand
Sleetshot puts a card on top of Library from Hand
Sleetshot puts a card on top of Library from Hand
Sleetshot puts a Mox Ruby on top of Library from Graveyard
M.Solymossy moves all cards from Graveyard to Library
M.Solymossy moves all cards from Graveyard to Library
M.Solymossy moves all cards from Graveyard to Library
M.Solymossy moves all cards from Graveyard to Library
M.Solymossy moves all cards from Graveyard to Library
M.Solymossy moves all cards from Graveyard to Library
Sleetshot puts a Demonic Tutor on top of Library from Graveyard
M.Solymossy shuffles library
Sleetshot shuffles library
M.Solymossy shuffles library
Sleetshot shuffles library
M.Solymossy draws 7 cards
Sleetshot shuffles library
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot draws a card
M.Solymossy puts Timetwister to Graveyard from Play
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot draws a card
M.Solymossy plays Polluted Delta from Hand
M.Solymossy taps Polluted Delta
M.Solymossy puts Polluted Delta to Graveyard from Play
M.Solymossy's life total is now 17 (-1)
M.Solymossy is looking its Library...
M.Solymossy puts Island into play from Library
M.Solymossy shuffles library
M.Solymossy stops looking its Library...
M.Solymossy taps Island
M.Solymossy rearranges cards in M.Solymossy's Hand
M.Solymossy untaps Island
M.Solymossy plays Mox Pearl from Hand
M.Solymossy taps Mox Pearl
M.Solymossy taps Island
M.Solymossy plays Repeal from Hand
<Sleetshot> Thinking
<Sleetshot> Ok
M.Solymossy draws a card
Sleetshot puts Goblin Welder to Hand from Play
M.Solymossy puts Repeal to Graveyard from Play
<M.Solymossy> End my turn
Sleetshot taps City of Brass
Sleetshot plays Vampiric Tutor from Hand
Sleetshot's life total is now 18 (-1)
<M.Solymossy> sure
Sleetshot's life total is now 16 (-2)
Sleetshot is looking its Library...
<Sleetshot> Thinking
Sleetshot rearranges cards in Sleetshot's Hand
<Sleetshot> ugh
Sleetshot plays a facedown card from Library
Sleetshot shuffles library
Sleetshot stops looking its Library...
Sleetshot shuffles library
Sleetshot shuffles library
Sleetshot puts a facedown card on top of Library from Play
Sleetshot puts Vampiric Tutor to Graveyard from Play
Sleetshot untaps his/her permanents
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot plays Mox Pearl from Hand
<Sleetshot> Ok?
<M.Solymossy> sure
Sleetshot plays Wasteland from Hand
Sleetshot taps Wasteland
M.Solymossy puts Underground Sea to Graveyard from Play
Sleetshot puts Wasteland to Graveyard from Play
It is now the Postcombat Main Phase
Sleetshot plays Black Lotus from Hand
Sleetshot plays Mana Crypt from Hand
Sleetshot taps Mana Crypt
Sleetshot untaps Mana Crypt
Sleetshot taps Mishra's Workshop
Sleetshot plays Crucible of Worlds from Hand
<Sleetshot> Ok?
<M.Solymossy> Ok
Sleetshot taps Mana Crypt
Sleetshot plays Mana Vault from Hand
<M.Solymossy> Ok
Sleetshot taps Mox Pearl
Sleetshot plays Balance from Hand
<M.Solymossy> lol
<M.Solymossy> must
M.Solymossy rearranges cards in M.Solymossy's Hand
M.Solymossy puts Tendrils of Agony to Graveyard from Hand
M.Solymossy puts Lotus Petal to Graveyard from Hand
M.Solymossy puts Polluted Delta to Graveyard from Hand
M.Solymossy puts Mox Jet to Graveyard from Hand
M.Solymossy puts Swamp to Graveyard from Play
Sleetshot puts Balance to Graveyard from Play
<Sleetshot> its a vamp target
Sleetshot taps City of Brass
Sleetshot's life total is now 15 (-1)
Sleetshot plays Goblin Welder from Hand
<M.Solymossy> im still not scared.
<Sleetshot> i should have wasted ny own land
<M.Solymossy> ok
<Sleetshot> that was a mistake
<M.Solymossy> agreed
<Sleetshot> End my turn
<M.Solymossy> i could have killed you last turn
<M.Solymossy> but im rusty with combo
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
M.Solymossy untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
M.Solymossy draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
<M.Solymossy> End my turn
<Sleetshot> evens damage
Sleetshot untaps his/her permanents
Sleetshot rolled a 9, using a 20 sided die
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot plays Bazaar of Baghdad from Hand
Sleetshot taps Bazaar of Baghdad
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot puts Tolarian Academy to Graveyard from Hand
Sleetshot puts Demonic Tutor to Graveyard from Hand
<Sleetshot> End my turn
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
M.Solymossy untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
M.Solymossy draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
<M.Solymossy> End my turn
Sleetshot untaps his/her permanents
Sleetshot rolled a 7, using a 20 sided die
Sleetshot taps Bazaar of Baghdad
<Sleetshot> still in upkeep
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot puts Karn, Silver Golem to Graveyard from Hand
Sleetshot puts Thorn of Amethyst to Graveyard from Hand
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot taps Mishra's Workshop
Sleetshot untaps Mishra's Workshop
Sleetshot taps Mishra's Workshop
Sleetshot untaps Mishra's Workshop
Sleetshot taps Mana Crypt
Sleetshot taps Goblin Welder
<M.Solymossy> target?
<Sleetshot> target karn
M.Solymossy taps Mox Sapphire
M.Solymossy taps Mox Pearl
M.Solymossy plays Hurkyl's Recall from Hand
<M.Solymossy> respond
<Sleetshot> ok response
Sleetshot taps Mana Vault
M.Solymossy puts Hurkyl's Recall to Graveyard from Play
<Sleetshot> Ok
Sleetshot taps Mox Pearl
Sleetshot puts Crucible of Worlds to Hand from Play
Sleetshot puts Mox Pearl to Hand from Play
Sleetshot puts Black Lotus to Hand from Play
Sleetshot puts Mana Crypt to Hand from Play
Sleetshot puts Mana Vault to Hand from Play
Sleetshot plays Crucible of Worlds from Hand
<Sleetshot> Ok?
Sleetshot plays Black Lotus from Hand
Sleetshot plays Mana Crypt from Hand
Sleetshot taps Mana Crypt
Sleetshot taps Mishra's Workshop
Sleetshot plays Smokestack from Hand
<M.Solymossy> ihave literally 24 cards i can draw to just WIN
<M.Solymossy> Ok
Sleetshot plays Mana Vault from Hand
<M.Solymossy> Ok
Sleetshot plays Mox Pearl from Hand
<Sleetshot> are 'nt you special
Sleetshot puts Tolarian Academy into play from Graveyard
<Sleetshot> End my turn
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
M.Solymossy untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
M.Solymossy draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
<M.Solymossy> omg
M.Solymossy plays Thoughtseize from Hand
M.Solymossy plays Yawgmoth's Bargain from Hand
M.Solymossy plays Mox Ruby from Hand
<M.Solymossy> icant stand loosing to AWFUL players
<M.Solymossy> with AWFUL decks
<Sleetshot> lol
<System> Player Lost


I am sleetshot.    LOL.

[Tha Gunslinga]

<JudasKilled> thats why my message said Tier pklz

Tier Pickles?  Are we playing TS block?

[edit]: Steve, is that my deck?  With Karn?

[M.Solymossy]

Hate to tell ya Steve, but I haven't played that deck in months....


Edit: And everyone knows I never played Bargain in any combo decks.

[Prospero]

Steve, what 5CStax list are you running?

[LordHomerCat]

Those capitalized AWFULS sold me on that being Soly.

[Smmenen]

Steve, what 5CStax list are you running?

Cron Style 5c Stax with 3 Crop Rotation, with your idea of running Thorn over 2Sphere.

[oneofchaos]

Steve, what 5CStax list are you running?

Cron Style 5c Stax with 3 Crop Rotation, with your idea of running Thorn over 2Sphere.

Why play thorn over sphere?  Your playing what and how many creatures? 

[M.Solymossy]

Those capitalized AWFULS sold me on that being Soly.

It also is quite well known (Ask owen) that I write like that.  I also got made fun of a lot for the "must be nice" (But I always write MBN for that, for the record).

Also, I'm pretty sure I would have repealed his welder instead of the sapphire before Timetwister.

Overall, I don't have to defend myself, but whatever.  It's kinda sad that people are immitating me.

[OwenTheEnchanter]

Lets just all agree you both played terrible and move on.

(that is 100% Soly, and you egged him on)

[Smmenen]

I agree that its soly.   I played him again last night (he told me that he talked with Jimmy about the log I posted), but he was: a) playing under the same name, b) playing the same deck, and c) playing with Bargain (which he claims he 'just added').

But how did I play so terrible (aside from a subtle misplay with Balance) and how did I egg him on?  That's silly.  I egged him on?  Give me a break. 

[OwenTheEnchanter]

M.Solymossy plays Demonic Tutor from Hand
M.Solymossy plays Hurkyl's Recall from Hand
<Sleetshot> must be nice

<Sleetshot> are 'nt you special

And to a lesser extent:

<Sleetshot> must be nice to DT?
<Sleetshot> yeah, dt is a nice card

In no way does this excuse Solys hilarious and obnoxious reaction, but by stooping to his level you're just feeding the beast.

Play-wise for some reason it looked much worse yesterday when I read it then it actually is. What can I say I expected worse from an AWFUL player with an AWFUL deck.

[MishraTron]

And everyone knows I never played Bargain in any combo decks.

http://www.morphling.de/top8decks.php?id=1040&highlight=6#place6

http://www.morphling.de/top8decks.php?id=844&highlight=2#place2


For reference.

[policehq]

Those capitalized AWFULS sold me on that being Soly.

It also is quite well known (Ask owen) that I write like that.  I also got made fun of a lot for the "must be nice" (But I always write MBN for that, for the record).

Also, I'm pretty sure I would have repealed his welder instead of the sapphire before Timetwister.

Overall, I don't have to defend myself, but whatever.  It's kinda sad that people are immitating me.

Almost as sad as pretending it wasn't you in that log.

Sleetshot taps Bazaar of Baghdad
<Sleetshot> still in upkeep
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot puts Karn, Silver Golem to Graveyard from Hand
Sleetshot puts Thorn of Amethyst to Graveyard from Hand
Sleetshot draws a card
Sleetshot taps Mishra's Workshop

Why didn't you discard three, Steve? Did that have an effect on the game?

[wiley]

He was still in the upkeep and activated the bazaar with no hand.  Gotta feed the da joblins, ya?

[Smmenen]

He was still in the upkeep and activated the bazaar with no hand.  Gotta feed the da joblins, ya?

Correct. 

[oneofchaos]

For what it's worth Fowler now hates me because apparently I said I would hack his bank account?  He gave me a link to a foreign website that had a log of somebody named oneofchaos stating that.  The problem with MWS is that because people don't have logins or usernames, it is so easy to steal somebody's "name".  Also I tend to be a bit of douche when playing on MWS unless I know my opponent personally.  All I want is an honest day's worth of playtesting, and somebody wastes my time by going stasis go?  I only have so much time, and vintage != casual.  I will usually see the deck out for at least a game to make sure it's not some new halfway decent deck, but it usually isn't.  I really do believe the shuffler is fairly awful, some of the hands I have gotten on there are disgustingly broken or statistically unheard of.  The program also crashes on a frequent basis, so I get the feeling not as much was put into it as there could have been. 

Steve, whether or not it was Soly it doesn't really matter.  I played against "smennen" yesterday and I did not post the ridiculous things "you" said.  Hell I might have to play as M.Solymossy some time!

[Smmenen]

Steve, whether or not it was Soly it doesn't really matter.  I played against "smennen" yesterday and I did not post the ridiculous things "you" said.  Hell I might have to play as M.Solymossy some time!

Notice my handle is "Smmenen" NOT Smennen.

[oneofchaos]

You know what I mean.  It's pretty much every day I run into "rich shay" or Smmenen variants.

[M.Solymossy]

Any publicity is good publicity.  I'm GoogleBot

[oneofchaos]

EWWWWW!  You use aim and yahoo messenger?  Switch to trillian or pidgin.  Nice Utorrent shortuct

[M.Solymossy]

I only use yahoo to talk with my Girlfriend, which as you learned from the photos and my facebook, is well worth it, dave.

[Diakonov]

Pidgin does rock though, and you can use it to chat with people on AIM or Yahoo.

[policehq]

I only use yahoo to talk with my Girlfriend, which as you learned from the photos and my facebook, is well worth it, dave.

She looks like someone that can chat well?

[oneofchaos]

He's just trying to get me angry because the girlfriend is in Iowa and I am in Connecticut for the summer.  I almost got to go to gencon, a store owner was going to hook me up with whatever card I needed to play, I was going to represent my store, but alas Sarah and I are vacationing in Cape Cod.

[Lurker101]

He's just trying to get me angry because the girlfriend is in Iowa and I am in Connecticut for the summer.  I almost got to go to gencon, a store owner was going to hook me up with whatever card I needed to play, I was going to represent my store, but alas Sarah and I are vacationing in Cape Cod.

Just out of curiosity where in Iowa? I live in Grinnell (don't worry I won't stalk or steal anyone's girlfriend LOL).

[oneofchaos]

She's in Des Moines.