Vintage for FTV:Jace2.0/for Cash Results! Lists! Pics!

[LotusHead]

ok, most of that eventually.

20 People, lots of fun, very little time here...

Standing after 5 rounds of swiss:

Jim Kinchloe - Turbo Tezz thing
Stephen Menendian - ? Gush? Pyromancer?
Daniel Friedman - Jace.dec?
Jeff Neilson - Young Americans, minus five cards, plus 5 cards
David Calhert - ?
James Saunders - Shop deck I piloted last month
Ryan Reynolds - Stuff with Pyromancers
Matt Salts - Esper control
Ryan Devine - ?

Sorry my notes aren't better. I think I left stack of lists at the store.

Top 4 was...
Me Daniel James, and by process of elimination David
Danny beat James, and David beat me (by playing more broken cards than me, and getting bobs online all three games while I get zero online.

Pics and stuff later. Progress reports are due!

Top 4 got $69, 2nd got Jace 2.0, 1st got FTV:Jace unopened thing.

Dunno who won yet.

[potato]

It was a great turnout! Sadly for me, I lost on the bubble in the last round, finishing 3-2 and didn't make top 8. It was a good 3-game match in which I stumbled at the last minute due to a little unfamiliarity with my deck.

I was playing Stephen's Pyromancer Gush list, with one tweak because I was expecting to face The Sea Of Shops (though I wound up not playing any the whole day):

4 Gush
4 Preordain
3 Mental Misstep
3 Flusterstorm
4 Force of Will
3 Young Pyromancer
3 Regrowth
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Ponder
1 Brainstorm
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Hurkyll's Recall
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Fastbond
1 Yawgmoth's Will
2 Ancient Grudge
2 Jace, The Mind Sculptor

1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Black Lotus
2 Underground Sea
2 Volcanic Island
2 Tropical Island
1 Island
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Misty Rainforest

Sideboard

2 Thoughtseize
4 Leyline of the Void
1 Yixlid Jailor
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Mountain
3 Nature's Claim
3 Ingot Chewer

I didn't play dredge either, so the 2nd jailer was not missed in the sideboard.

My notes on the day are mainly that the two matches I lost, I lost to Dark Confidants that I couldn't do anything about. I'd really like to have some Lightning Bolts in the main I think. Or like a Fire/Ice or something. Or maybe Spell Snare, since the counters in here are pretty weak at trying to stop bob.

[Smmenen]

I don't see the tweak, as that's the exact list in my Grow article. 

Jeff, are you planning on posting the decklists?  Or can I assume that no one will know my new deck?

[luudes]

As Ryan said, he made one tweak from your list and he then described it. He switched 1 jailer sideboard for 1 more ancient grudge.  Yes the main deck is the same.

[potato]

I don't see the tweak, as that's the exact list in my Grow article.  

Jeff, are you planning on posting the decklists?  Or can I assume that no one will know my new deck?

The tweak was taking one jailer out for one grudge in the SB, as Mike pointed out. In retrospect I might have liked taking out the hurkyll's for another grudge, I wasn't excited about hurkyll's all day. But I didn't want to change the maindeck without having played the deck at least a little first, since I was sure you had good reasons to put it exactly the way it was. Now that I've given it a spin, I'll probably change one or two cards if I run it again.

[Smmenen]

Hurkyls won me a game against Shops that nothing else would have.  I didn't see the Jailer change, that's why I asked.

[potato]

Hurkyls won me a game against Shops that nothing else would have.  I didn't see the Jailer change, that's why I asked.

Yeah, it does all come down to matchups. I just didn't appreciate hurkyll's because I didn't play shops all day.

[LotusHead]

I don't see the tweak, as that's the exact list in my Grow article. 

Jeff, are you planning on posting the decklists?  Or can I assume that no one will know my new deck?

I accidentally left the lists at the shop. hopefully they'll still be there when I stop by.

[Smmenen]

I wouldn't mind if u "lost" them. .

[brianpk80]

I wouldn't mind if u "lost" them. .

Trying to cover up the fact that you played Mayor of Avabruck with great success, no doubt...    

[LotusHead]

WOTC style, in no particular order:

My bastardization of Rich Shay's deck


My deck, piloted by local James Saunders


Jim's deck


Local Matt Salt's deck (on of the locals who figured out how to trade to get Vintage/legacy staples and now has his own Vintage Proxy deck possibilities (as long as it's blue based) and now has 2-3 pieces of power.


Ryan Reynold's deck (former Eudemonia Judge). I think this is my favorite list.


Dave's deck. SB Darkblast is a pretty low blow.


Smenenn's list


Danny's list.

If Tobi wants them typed, I'll type them, but I'm busy!  Tourney pics later.

[Smmenen]

I wouldn't mind if u "lost" them. .

Trying to cover up the fact that you played Mayor of Avabruck with great success, no doubt...    

*died*

Wow, this top 8 had lots of Skullclamp.

[LotusHead]

standings after 5 rounds of swiss


Dave and I both played Bob. He just happen to draw all his (or counter mine, I forget)


He countered all my stuff, I blew up all his stuff.


Trinket Mage to the rescue!



Ummm... keep? Does this deck not run Top? Maybe I should have researched that!


If Jace and Skullclamp got into a fight, who would win?


Dredgeboy had a miserable fight against the cage.


This might be the ol' dredge darkblast into BSC via Sensei's Top/draw ability, who shuffles what in and where?


Yep, Darkblast


James piloting whatever 5c shop deck I have built.  He didn't understant why Trading Post was in the deck, until he ddrew it whenever and wrecked face from there (or got forced asap)


During this match against BC, I cast my second ever Yawgmoth's Will in a tourney.


Smurf Pron


All I remember was there was a shitload of magic played this game.


BC checking his e-peen as local EDH guy pilots my deck.


K, fastbond, check. Now what?

Playing vs Dredge with actual bazaars and asian cards is kinda cool.


More smurf action


You can guess what Jim's proxies are...because they suck!  GGS sir.

[cvarosky80]

Bob-Gush-Mancer. That's interesting, for certain. I presume there will be something coming from you on Eternal Central in the near future, Steve. I'm interested in reading it, if that is the case.

[Smmenen]

It's just Grow with Bobs.  I'm not planning an article/tournament report on it, even though I had plenty of tournament material.   But I appreciate the interest in such an article.  The Grow primer I wrote recently has 95% of the key precepts.  

[cvarosky80]

It's just Grow with Bobs.  I'm not planning an article/tournament report on it, even though I had plenty of tournament material.   But I appreciate the interest.  The Grow primer I wrote recently has 95% of the key precepts.   

I understand that it's your previous Grow deck with Bobs over Regrowth and Jace, and in fact I bought the primer the day it came out (I just enjoy reading about Vintage, in general), so it's not something like that I was expecting. Just something more along the lines as to why you made that specific change and how exactly it worked out for you on the day is all. Obviously, you did quite well with this configuration, and congratulations on that. I love seeing Gush decks doing well.

[shrewarmies]

Not sure of final standings but you are welcome

LotusHead – Young Americans

Lands (15)
2 Volcanic Island
2 Underground Sea
2 Tropical Island
4 Misty Rainforest
2 Scalding Tarn
1 Flooded Strand
1 Island
1 Library of Alexandria

Artifacts (7)
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Sol Ring

1 Skullclamp

Creatures (15)
1 Guttersnipe
4 Young Pyromancer
1 Snapcaster Mage
4 Dark Confidant
4 Deathrite Shaman
1 Trinket Mage

Planeswalker (2)
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor

Sorceries (5)
1 Fire Covenant
1 Time Walk
1 Yawgmoth’s Will
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Grapeshot

Instant (15)
1 Ancestral Recall
2 Ancient Grudge
1 Nature’s Claim
3 Lightning Bolt
3 Mental Misstep
1 Vampiric Tutor
4 Force of Will

Sideboard (15)
2 Duress
1 Mountain
3 Ingot Chewer
2 Nature’s Claim
2 Nihil Spellbomb
4 Leyline of the Void

James Saunders – 5c Stax
Lands (19)
4 Mishra’s Workshop
3 Gemstone Mine
1 Strip Mine
3 City of Brass
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Cavern of Souls
1 Ghost Quarter
4 Wasteland

Artifacts (26)
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mana Vault
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt

1 Sphere of Resistance
4 Tangle Wire
1 Thorn of Amethyst
1 Trinisphere
4 Chalice of the Void
2 Crucible of Worlds
3 Smokestack
1 Trading Post

Creatures (11)
1 Gorilla Shaman
2 Goblin Welder
2 Phyrexian Metamorph
1 Wurmcoil Engine
4 Lodestone Golem
1 Sundering Titan

Sorceries (2)
1 Tinker
1 Demonic Tutor

Sideboard (15)
3 Stony Silence
1 Triskelion
1 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Dismember
1 Rest in Peace
1 Duplicant
2 Supression Field
3 Relic of Progenitus
1 Pithing Needle
1 Weak//Tear

Jim Kinchloe –Turbo Tezzeret
Lands (14)
2 Polluted Delta
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Island
2 Volcanic Island
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Underground Sea

Artifacts (17)
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Opal
1 mana Vault
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Grim Monolith

1 Time Vault
2 Voltaic Key
3 Sensei’s Divining Top

Creatures (3)
3 Dark Confidant

Planeswalkers (5)
3 Tezzeret the Seeker
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor

Sorceries (5)
1 Tinker
1 Time Walk
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Yawgmoth’s Will

Instants (16)
1 Hurkyl’s Recall
2 Flusterstorm
2 Spell Snare
4 Force of Will
3 Mana Drain
1 Brainstorm
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor

Sideboard (15)
3 Ingot Chewer
1 Rack and Ruin
1 Hurkyl’s Recall
1 Mountain
2 Yixlid Jailer
4 Leyline of the Void
1 Grafdigger’s Cage
1 Red Elemental Blast
1 Blightsteel Colossus

Matt Salt -  Tezzeret Control
Lands (16)
4 Island
2 Underground Sea
2 Tundra
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Library of Alexandria

Artifacts (12)
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Emerald
1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Vault

1 Time Vault
1 Voltaic Key
1 Sensei’s Divining Top

Creatures (1)
1 Blightsteel Colossus

Planeswalkers (5)
3 Tezzeret the Seeker
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor

Sorceries (7)
Time Walk
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Tinker
1 Ponder
1 Yawgmoth;s Will
2 Thoughtseize

Instants (19)
1 Ancestral Recall
3 Flusterstorm
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
1 Misdirection
1 Brainstorm
1 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Hurkyl’s Recall
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor

Sideboard (15)
2 Nihil Spellbomb
4 Leyline of the Void
1 Echoing Truth
4 Swords to Plowshares
2 Steel Sabotage
2 Diesenchant

Ryan Reynolds – Pyromancer Control
Lands (15)
3 Volcanic island
2 Underground Sea
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Island
1 Cavern of Souls
2 Polluted Delta
3 Flooded Strand
2 Misty Rainforest

Artifacts (11)
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring

1 Time Vault
1 Voltaic Key
2 Skullclamp

Creatures (11)
4 Young Pyromancer
3 Snapcaster Mage
4 Dark Confidant

Sorceries (7)
3 Thoughtseize
1 Yawgmoth’s Will
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Ponder
1 Time Walk

Instants (16)
4 Lighting Bolt
1 Vampiric Tutor
3 Spell Snare
1 Ancestral Recall
4 Force of Will
2 Mental Misstep
1 Brainstorm

Sideboard (15)
1 Spell Snare
1 Mental Misstep
3 Surgical Extraction
1 Nihil Spellbomb
2 Grafdigger’s Cage
2 Flusterstorm
1 Pithing Needle
2 Hurkyl’s Recall
2 Energy Flux

David Calhert – Grixis Control
Lands (15)
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Flooded Strand
1 Polluted Delta
2 Island
2 Volcanic Island
3 Underground Sea
4 Scalding Tarn

Artifacts (12)
1 Mana Vault
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby

1 Time Vault
1 Voltaic Key
1 Sensei’s Divining Top

Creatures (8)
4 Dark Confidant
3 Snapcaster Mage
1 Blightsteel Colossus

Planeswalkers (3)
3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor

Sorceries (4)
1 Yawgmoth’s Will
1 Tinker
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Time Walk

Instants (18)
4 Force of Will
2 Mana Drain
2 Flusterstorm
2 Mental Misstep
3 Lightning Bolt
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Hurkyl’s Recall
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Brainstorm
1 Thirst for Knowledge

Sideboard (15)
1 Mountain
3 Ingot Chewer
3 Steel Sabotage
1 Darkblast
2 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Tormod’s Crypt
2 Pithing Needle
1 Thoughtseize
1 Flusterstorm

Stephen Menendian – Bob Grow
Lands (14)
1 Island
1 Flooded Strand
1 Polluted Delta
1 Misty Rainforest
2 Tropical Island
4 Scalding Tarn
2 Underground Sea
2 Volcanic Island


Artifacts (6)
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Black Lotus

Creatures (7)
4 Dark Confidant
3 Young Pyromancer

Enchantments (1)
1 Fastbond

Sorceries (10)
4 Preordain
1 Time Walk
1 Yawgmoth’s Will
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Ponder
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Tendrils of Agony

Instants (22)
4 Force of Will
4 Mental Misstep
4 Gush
2 Ancient Grudge
1 Hurkyl’s Recall
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Mystical Tutor
3 Flusterstorm

Sideboard (15)
4 Leyline of the Void
2 Yixlid Jailer
3 Ingot Chewer
1 Mountain
3 Nature’s Claim
2 Thoughtseize

Daniel Friedman – Mono Red Burn – U/R Ground Control
Lands (16)
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
1 Snow-Covered Island
1 Island
1 Misty Rainforest
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Volcanic Island

Artifacts (8)
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Emerald
1 Sol Ring

1 Skullclamp

Creatures (9)
3 Young Pyromancer
3 Snapcaster Mage
3 Vendillion Clique

Planeswalkers (3)
3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor

Sorceries (3)
1 Time Walk
1 Ponder
1 Merchant Scroll

Instants (21)
4 Force of Will
2 Spell Snare
3 Flusterstorm
3 Mental Misstep
1 Fire//Ice
4 Lightning Bolt
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
1 Repeal
1 Steel Sabotage

Sideboard (15)
1 Surgical Extraction
4 Grafdigger’s Cage
1 Pyroblast
1 Rack and Ruin
3 Ingot Chewer
1 Electrolyse (Glectrolyee???)
1 relic of Progenitus
1 Steel Sabotage
1 Mountain
1 Fire//Ice

[Smmenen]

50% Pyromancer top 8.  Wow.

[LotusHead]

Thank you Shrewarmies for typing up lists.
 Top 8:

James defeats Jim
Danny beats Ryan Reynolds
Jeff Beat Matt
David beat Steve

Semi-finals:
David beat Jeff
Danny beat James

Finals: Split I believe.

Fun fact: I cast Yawmoth's Will for the second time ever in a tourney!

[xouman]

50% Pyromancer top 8.  Wow.

I'm more surprised about LotusHead Fire Covenant. I thought the life was paid as a part of the costing cost, but if it's not... Seems a beast against those confidant/pyromancer/bug decks.

[PETER FLUGZEUG]

I'm more surprised about LotusHead Fire Covenant. I thought the life was paid as a part of the costing cost, but if it's not... Seems a beast against those confidant/pyromancer/bug decks.

It is, though. the oracle text on magic cards.info:

As an additional cost to cast Fire Covenant, pay X life.
Fire Covenant deals X damage divided as you choose among any number of target creatures.

[Onslaught]

50% Pyromancer top 8.  Wow.

I'm more surprised about LotusHead Fire Covenant. I thought the life was paid as a part of the costing cost, but if it's not... Seems a beast against those confidant/pyromancer/bug decks.

I messed around with Fire Covenant, but have found that Izzet Staticaster is a much safer option. Staticaster ignores Spell Pierce and Flusterstorm and can hang around for later to block/prevent them from casting another X/1 until they spend resources to remove her.

[BC]

Semi-finals:
David beat Jeff
Danny beat James

Finals: Split I believe.

Impossible.  Danny is a founding member of Team No Split.  That would go against everything he stands for.

[Smmenen]

Semi-finals:
David beat Jeff
Danny beat James

Finals: Split I believe.

Impossible.  Danny is a founding member of Team No Split.  That would go against everything he stands for.

[LotusHead]

50% Pyromancer top 8.  Wow.

I'm more surprised about LotusHead Fire Covenant. I thought the life was paid as a part of the costing cost, but if it's not... Seems a beast against those confidant/pyromancer/bug decks.

Fire Covenant was in the headlines last month or so, but I've been so busy that I've done zero testing.  Also, I just happened to have a Fire Covenant on top of my desk.

Stratocaster and (secret Frankie Mach tech) is much better probably.

[The Atog Lord]

LotusHead, congrats on the top eight. How did Fire Covenant work out? Did you actually wipe out a board with it at any point?

Steve, interesting list. Did you find yourself losing to Bob flips all that often?

[LotusHead]

LotusHead, congrats on the top eight. How did Fire Covenant work out? Did you actually wipe out a board with it at any point?

Steve, interesting list. Did you find yourself losing to Bob flips all that often?

I had no Mystical Tutor in my deck, so Fire Covenent never came up. Grapeshot did once (and has similar desired effect).

Mini Report:
Round 1 vs Jim, I think.
G1: I get all my goodies online, skullc;amp Elemental Tokens, and so forth
G2: Tinker for BSC
G3: Black Lotus/Mana Crypt into Tezzeret 1.0, tutor for Voltaic Key (Time Vault in hand)

Round 2 Bye

Round 3 Vs Aahz
G1 I go broken (I think)
G2 He dies to Bob flips
There might have been a g3, who knows

Round 4 vs BC (Shops)
G1 I keep awesome hand vs ShopMaster BC.
G2 He totally controls the game with artifacs and wastelands
G3 We play a game of Magic. I topdeck a Jace 2.0 into brainstorm for awesomeness and set up a Yawgwill turn after keeping his damn Trike in check finally. (threw lots of good Human Wizards under the bus to get to that point). Blaine lets me play out my Yawgwill turn, because I'm so inexperienced with it, and there is a very real chance that I mess it up and pass the turn or something.

Round 5 ID with Ryan Reynolds (even though I contemplate the Play Draw Rule for top 8. I am 3rd in swiss after round 4, so I am likely to be on the play if I ID.



Top 8 vs Matt Salts
G1 He Thoughtseizes, Fetches, and Mental Missteps into single digit life total, my dorks swing away as he draws little gas.
G2 I blow up every fucking artifact he plays (this might be from another game vs another player), but Salts don't do social media or TMD thing, so my word is all that matters.
G3, ok, g2 was probably g3, g2 was probably Tinker for Colossus

Qfinals vs Matt Salts
G1 I got busted
G2 he Tinkers for BSC
G3 He draws no gas.


Top 4: David playing Grixis Controll( I think)
Game 1 I go broken
Game 2 He out Bob's me
Game 3 He outbob's me again with more broken cards. I did make play of destroying his mox as he went to attack step with obvious Tinker in Hand. This bought me turns, but not the ultimate win.
I think he Darkblasted my only bob this match, and drew bobs all over the place. Or he outplayed me.

$69 dude!

[strip miner]

Blaine, I was forced into a split, as my ride and Dave Carhart (the other half of ICBM - West) were threatening to leave me there. I did get Dave to play the finals out at my house last weekend. I won 2-0. We filmed it, but didn't realize there was so much glare on my board. The video is basically useless.

But here are the important points in summary.

- split the finals prize-wise
- I won the tournament with my awesome deck "Mono Red Burn"
- I won my top 4 match with a Rack and Ruin blowout hitting a Chalice at 1 and a Lodestone Golem
- I hard-casted two Ingot Chewers against Workshops during the day
- I boarded in Electrolize against Dredge which ended up winning a match by removing 3 Bridges
- in "Mono Red Burn" fashion, I did win a game with Fire to the face

[Tha Gunslinga]

Blaine, I was forced into a split, as my ride and Dave Carhart (the other half of ICBM - West) were threatening to leave me there. I did get Dave to play the finals out at my house last weekend. I won 2-0. We filmed it, but didn't realize there was so much glare on my board. The video is basically useless.

But here are the important points in summary.

- split the finals prize-wise
- I won the tournament with my awesome deck "Mono Red Burn"
- I won my top 4 match with a Rack and Ruin blowout hitting a Chalice at 1 and a Lodestone Golem
- I hard-casted two Ingot Chewers against Workshops during the day
- I boarded in Electrolize against Dredge which ended up winning a match by removing 3 Bridges
- in "Mono Red Burn" fashion, I did win a game with Fire to the face

Dave Carhart is still around?  And he's on the West Coast now?  Unreal.

Good job, btw.

[Bill Copes]

Those 5c Stax and Bob-Grow lists are damn hot.