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« Reply #60 on: April 01, 2015, 11:45:30 am » |
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Well they just announced next season it's being changed to Standard.
This is a fairly unreasonable interpretation. There's almost the same amount of downtime, but it's being filled with people casting bad lightning bolts and siege rhinos. Please spare me your nitpicking. Next is the one after this one. I didn't address the time gap, because the prior seasons gap has no bearing on this one. It could have been December and January were the holidays and thus peoples schedule couldn't accommodate the league. Anyway, the change to the next iteration of Tuesday night live Magic programming from Randy B. will apparently be Standard, he has confirmed it on twitter. I guess we can pick up the action in ~ 2 months. The competitors might need a breather anyway. I have no desire to watch standard in any form, nor do I understand why it needs any more coverage than it already gets every weekend. |
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« Reply #61 on: April 01, 2015, 11:47:51 am » |
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To clarify a couple of points:
1. The Standard Super League is real. It is not an April Fool's joke. Now, personally, I have very little interest in standard as a format. However, I will likely tune in to see what Andrew Cuneo has brewed up. He's one of the best deck-builders out there, and his decks are almost always interesting no matter the format.
2. I honestly don't mind taking a ten-week break. I love playing in the Vintage Super League. It is an honor. But, it is also a huge time commitment. The VSL begins at 9pm, and I usually have a lot of trouble sleeping afterward. Taking a break and being able to get more rest on Tuesday nights for a while is welcome, honestly.
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« Reply #62 on: April 01, 2015, 12:43:20 pm » |
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I feel like if they wanted to take a break from vintage they could have easily showcased another format that isn't being given enough coverage by WOTC, like legacy.
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« Reply #63 on: April 01, 2015, 12:58:59 pm » |
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To clarify a couple of points:
1. The Standard Super League is real. It is not an April Fool's joke. Now, personally, I have very little interest in standard as a format. However, I will likely tune in to see what Andrew Cuneo has brewed up. He's one of the best deck-builders out there, and his decks are almost always interesting no matter the format.
2. I honestly don't mind taking a ten-week break. I love playing in the Vintage Super League. It is an honor. But, it is also a huge time commitment. The VSL begins at 9pm, and I usually have a lot of trouble sleeping afterward. Taking a break and being able to get more rest on Tuesday nights for a while is welcome, honestly.
I thought the VSL was your baby. Did you just handle the logistics for Wizards in setting up the vintage games? |
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« Reply #64 on: April 01, 2015, 01:12:15 pm » |
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Randy Buehler is the mastermind behind the VSL. Everyone who has played in it has had a hand in shaping its course and direction, but Randy is the founder.
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« Reply #65 on: April 01, 2015, 03:51:44 pm » |
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1) Roland Chang
Prominent Shops player, former Vintage World Champ, 2014 Champs T8, regional top performer and above all else, huge community organizer
2) Greg Fenton
Prominent Oath player, 2013 Vintage Champs T8, deckbuilder for 2014 Vintage Champ Mark Tocco, regional top performer
The third would be a top pro who also plays Vintage. Chapin, Huey Jensen, Reid Duke?
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« Reply #66 on: April 01, 2015, 04:59:58 pm » |
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I hope that the VSL gets more Vintage regulars on it, but I'd like to also recommend people who aren't archetype experts, but are truly Vintage generalists/experts who play any archetype and are facile with big blue, combo, aggro control, dredge, and workshops. Who would be a strong recommendation with that criteria in mind?
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« Reply #67 on: April 01, 2015, 05:33:08 pm » |
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I hope that the VSL gets more Vintage regulars on it, but I'd like to also recommend people who aren't archetype experts, but are truly Vintage generalists/experts who play any archetype and are facile with big blue, combo, aggro control, dredge, and workshops. Who would be a strong recommendation with that criteria in mind?
Brian Kelly would be my vote for consistent Vintage generalist. He usually runs variants of Bomberman, also switches it up like last week w/ Mentor: http://tcdecks.net/busqueda.php?nombre=Brian%20KellyTom Dixon actually has the widest range of anyone: http://tcdecks.net/busqueda.php?nombre=Tom%20Dixon and http://tcdecks.net/busqueda.php?nombre=Thomas%20Dixon |
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« Reply #68 on: April 01, 2015, 07:06:55 pm » |
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I hope that the VSL gets more Vintage regulars on it, but I'd like to also recommend people who aren't archetype experts, but are truly Vintage generalists/experts who play any archetype and are facile with big blue, combo, aggro control, dredge, and workshops. Who would be a strong recommendation with that criteria in mind?
Brian Kelly would be my vote for consistent Vintage generalist. He usually runs variants of Bomberman, also switches it up like last week w/ Mentor: http://tcdecks.net/busqueda.php?nombre=Brian%20KellyAgreed that Brian is definitely capable of playing a number of archetypes. He is responsible for popularizing the Humans archetype as well as now running a variety of blue control lists. I don't think he would ever play workshops or dredge though. Two other people come to mind as even more general: Tom Dixon and Shawn Griffiths. Both have played and top 8'ed with pretty much every archetype in existence. |
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« Reply #69 on: April 01, 2015, 08:26:38 pm » |
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I hope that the VSL gets more Vintage regulars on it, but I'd like to also recommend people who aren't archetype experts, but are truly Vintage generalists/experts who play any archetype and are facile with big blue, combo, aggro control, dredge, and workshops. Who would be a strong recommendation with that criteria in mind?
I think that Tom Dixon (Shawn Griffiths and Vinny Forino also come to mind for me as people I've heard play everything well, but I haven't seen play everything) is the person that comes to mind as "success with all the archetypes." Unfortunately, a lot of the very best Vintage players are the very best at one deck or archetype, and only sparingly branch out (Brian Kelly counts: he only plays Brian Kelly decks!). Even Legacy transplants like me aren't totally fluid with their choices--I certainly was for a while, but now, I'm basically a mono-tundra player. It's a "feature not bug" thing about the format, where knowing a ton about your deck matters a great deal. |
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« Reply #70 on: April 01, 2015, 10:39:05 pm » |
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I appreciate the support guys. I love the community and would certainly love to join the ranks of the VSL but I think they are looking for more star power still. I definitely like to play the deck I think is best suited for the room, regardless of whether or not it contains Mana Drain (my personal bias). It certainly has worked for me over the past few years.
Personally, I think Reid Duke is the best fit if it works with his schedule. He has recent IRL Vintage success and is a well known MtGO personality. Plus, he is super informative when approached and thus I believe he would also add great commentary, which is something I think the VSL just lost with the departure of Dave.
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« Reply #71 on: April 02, 2015, 11:56:53 am » |
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Tom came to mind for me as well for someone that's a Vintage generalist. Also, my perspective is that Tom is a talker (I mean this in a good way) and his commentary would be a nice addition to VSL. During tournaments he's always open to me with his deck list and reasoning behind choices. Personally, I think Reid Duke is the best fit if it works with his schedule. He has recent IRL Vintage success and is a well known MtGO personality. Plus, he is super informative when approached and thus I believe he would also add great commentary, which is something I think the VSL just lost with the departure of Dave. Reid would be a really smart choice for VSL. They would benefit from someone that is proven across many formats and still knows Vintage. Also, Reid had the cojones to run TPS in the shops-infested North East during Champs. He's also a nice guy. ...
3. Caleb Durward
This is probably a bit off-the-wall, but he is a fairly high profile player of other formats and would attract an audience I think. And as cool as it has been to see the Pros stick their necks out with some fairly spicy deck choices, I think having a noted brewer involved would be a lot of fun. Didn't work out for Josh Utter Leyton alas, but who knows what we'd see out of Caleb. Would certainly be interesting.
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I like this choice a lot since Brian Kelly doesn't have the "star power" they're looking for. It's sometimes boring to watch some of the VSL competitors rotate archetypes amongst themselves (Delver, Belcher, Merfolk). I'd love to see someone abuse the vast card selection of the format. |
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« Reply #72 on: April 02, 2015, 01:10:17 pm » |
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Dave Williams  Seriously, need to keep him on as a commentator or something. |
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« Reply #73 on: April 02, 2015, 02:49:12 pm » |
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Dave Williams Seriously, need to keep him on as a commentator or something. Agreed. I wasn't a fan at first but after he solo-commented almost an entire match, it was quite clear that he's pretty dang good at that. |
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« Reply #74 on: April 22, 2015, 02:40:31 pm » |
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Did everyone see the announcement last night?
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« Reply #75 on: April 22, 2015, 03:31:23 pm » |
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Did everyone see the announcement last night?
please elaborate. |
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« Reply #76 on: April 22, 2015, 03:58:08 pm » |
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Did everyone see the announcement last night?
please elaborate. They'll have a qualifying tournament for the league. |
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« Reply #77 on: April 23, 2015, 01:06:37 pm » |
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Did everyone see the announcement last night?
please elaborate. Well, if you watch the cast, Randy announced the start of the next Vintage Super League Season, as well as the play in bracket, which includes multiple Vintage Community people. https://twitter.com/rbuehler/status/590838993929035776Pretty exciting. |
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« Reply #78 on: April 23, 2015, 02:58:04 pm » |
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Hoping for Roland or Nick.
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« Reply #79 on: April 23, 2015, 10:27:16 pm » |
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Meh 😒
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« Reply #80 on: May 19, 2015, 11:37:08 pm » |
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I think Mike Solymossy, Brian Kelly, Patrick Chapin, or Reid Duke would be good people to watch in addition to those already playing. I would prefer really good deck builders, or consistent tournament performers. I am more interested in watching people that take the format very seriously, or have some deep knowledge of the game. It is good to have bigger name people mixed with players who specialize in Vintage because they can learn more about the format, and more people will probably watch it.
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« Reply #81 on: May 24, 2015, 09:36:35 pm » |
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I would like to see Tommy Kolowith in the VSL. How do we make this happen?
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« Reply #82 on: May 25, 2015, 10:17:59 am » |
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As the link in Steven's last post states they are having an 8 man playoff for the 10th member. The people in that playoff have already been decided.
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« Reply #83 on: November 23, 2015, 05:42:46 pm » |
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« Reply #84 on: November 23, 2015, 06:14:03 pm » |
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i dont understand why you wont change more ppl in the league. change 1 guy, really?
No one likes tom martell for example. Annoying, whiny and borign.
Reid duke should get an auto invite.
Bring in some new blood! yes VSL is fun, but its getting a bit tedious with the SAME people for the 4th season.
Also, Sam black, who's a know brewer, should also get invited. Im sure he could spice it up.
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« Reply #85 on: November 23, 2015, 07:06:20 pm » |
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well, there is a big play in tournament with many fresh faces. That will take at least 2 weeks.
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« Reply #86 on: November 23, 2015, 07:48:46 pm » |
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Excellent, I can't wait!
I don't mind seeing the old faces again. All of the VSL competitors are excellent players and ambassadors for the format. Even Tom Martell -- he began VSL Season 1 with a lot of unwarranted arrogance but really shaped up over the rest of the seasons.
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« Reply #87 on: November 23, 2015, 10:50:15 pm » |
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Good players? Yes ofc. But there is so many untapped talents which would bring alot of good stuff. Now we only get one. Time for some refreshments.
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« Reply #88 on: November 24, 2015, 12:29:13 am » |
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Players they should recruit:
Rob Vroman
Brian Kelly
Andy Probasco
Vinnie or Raf Forino
Danny Batterman
Brian Demars
(to name a few)
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« Reply #89 on: November 24, 2015, 10:28:13 am » |
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No matter what happens tonight, next week, or the week after, I just wanted to say that I'm exceptionally grateful to have been chosen for this play-in tournament. Many thanks to all those who lent their support, making this possible. I owe you all a debt of gratitude.
I would love to see Roland or Dave Williams take it down. Both of those guys have a deep love and appreciation for the format, and it would be great to see them playing in the VSL proper.
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